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Taxes / Better understanding of capital gains harvesting?
« on: May 24, 2018, 01:56:57 PM »
I have a bunch of what JL Collins calls "cats and dogs" -- long-held stocks with significant unrealized gains in them. These make up about half of my portfolio.
I am just leaving them alone while I am still making ordinary income. But someday when I am not, I'll need to understand capital gains harvesting. So I recently re-listened to the GCC interview on episode 18 of ChooseFI:https://www.choosefi.com/018-go-curry-cracker-capital-gains-losses-roth-conversion-ladder/
And I also listened to their roundup episode at 18R: https://www.choosefi.com/018r-harvest-long-term-capital-gains-tax-free/
I had to listen to the hypothetical scenario that starts around 22:00 in episode 18R a couple times before it really clicked. Last time I listened to this was a year ago. These things take time to gel.
I also just read this Michael Kitces post: https://www.kitces.com/blog/understanding-the-mechanics-of-the-0-long-term-capital-gains-tax-rate-how-to-harvest-capital-gains-for-a-free-step-up-in-basis/ and found the charts helpful. I am now wondering if I am doing the math right under the new tax code.
Suppose it's 2018 and let's pretend I'm already "retired" and getting $0 in ordinary income. Let's also suppose I am a single filer with no dependents. So, I'm going to do a Roth conversion out of my traditional IRA so that I have some tax-free money in five years. Under the new tax code, $9,526 of ordinary income gets you into the 12% ordinary income bracket. Assume there are no other deductions. So each year, I can convert $9,525 + $12,000 = $21,525 (the amount of the standard deduction), wait five years, then use. Right?
Suppose I need an additional $17,000 each year to live on. I can safely sell $17,000 worth of stocks from a taxable portfolio because I will still be in the 0% capital gains bracket (under a grand total of $38,600) correct?
Am I finally getting it?
I am just leaving them alone while I am still making ordinary income. But someday when I am not, I'll need to understand capital gains harvesting. So I recently re-listened to the GCC interview on episode 18 of ChooseFI:https://www.choosefi.com/018-go-curry-cracker-capital-gains-losses-roth-conversion-ladder/
And I also listened to their roundup episode at 18R: https://www.choosefi.com/018r-harvest-long-term-capital-gains-tax-free/
I had to listen to the hypothetical scenario that starts around 22:00 in episode 18R a couple times before it really clicked. Last time I listened to this was a year ago. These things take time to gel.
I also just read this Michael Kitces post: https://www.kitces.com/blog/understanding-the-mechanics-of-the-0-long-term-capital-gains-tax-rate-how-to-harvest-capital-gains-for-a-free-step-up-in-basis/ and found the charts helpful. I am now wondering if I am doing the math right under the new tax code.
Suppose it's 2018 and let's pretend I'm already "retired" and getting $0 in ordinary income. Let's also suppose I am a single filer with no dependents. So, I'm going to do a Roth conversion out of my traditional IRA so that I have some tax-free money in five years. Under the new tax code, $9,526 of ordinary income gets you into the 12% ordinary income bracket. Assume there are no other deductions. So each year, I can convert $9,525 + $12,000 = $21,525 (the amount of the standard deduction), wait five years, then use. Right?
Suppose I need an additional $17,000 each year to live on. I can safely sell $17,000 worth of stocks from a taxable portfolio because I will still be in the 0% capital gains bracket (under a grand total of $38,600) correct?
Am I finally getting it?